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DIY HHO Hydrogen Production a Water Fuel CellWARNING: This project involves creating a mixture of Hydrogen and Oxygen which is a highly EXPLOSIVE GAS. When contained in a confined space, detonation of the gas would be highly dangerous and could cause serious injury.
All atoms can form 'ions'. These are just the same atom except with a little extra charge. Atoms can become ionized when in the presence an electric field. You can see extreme examples of this in the DIY Tesla Coil project. Hydrogen forms positive ions, and oxygen forms negative ions. We use this to our advantage by using an electric field to pull the water molecules apart. By placing two electrodes (metal plates) into water we can create an electric field between them by connecting them to the terminals of a battery or power supply. The positive electrode is known as the anode, while the negative one is the cathode. Pure water actually does not conduct electricity so it is not suitable to be used without adding something to the water. Tap water already contains many dissolved compounds which allow the water to conduct. The ions formed in the water will be attracted to the electrode of opposite polarity, i.e. the positive hydrogen ions will move towards the cathode, while the negative oxygen ions move to the anode. Once the ions reach the surface of the electrodes the charges will be neutralised by adding or removing electrons. The gas is then fee to bubble up out of the remaining water to be collected.
The electrodes are typically made from metal or graphite (carbon) so that they can pass electricity into the water. It is important that the chosen material does not react readily with oxygen or one of the dissolved compounds otherwise reactions will occur at the surface of the cathode (negative electrode) and the water will become polluted with the products of the reactions. You will see an example of this below when copper electrodes are used. This also means that no or very little oxygen gas is released as it gets combined with the metal electrode and remains in the container. The Project This is a simple project that is used to create Hydrogen and Oxygen gas by electrysis of water. The aim was to get good gas production rates without using extra chemicals or eroding the electrodes.
The copper seemed to take too long to react away and it was decided that this would not be useful at all. Below you can see the result of using copper electrode for electrolysis. The blue sludge floating on the surface of the water is some reactant of the copper and tap water.
Many people use electrodes made from stainless steel kitchen ware or switch plates because the stainless steel does not react as easily. The problem is that the grade of the steel often found in such items is not great and you will be left with a brown sludge after a few minuets of operation. They are also quite thin, usually less than 1mm, which means that the do not last a very long time before being totally eroded away. The erosion of the electrodes happens much more quickly when high currents or solutes (often called catalysts) are used. The volume of gas produced is proportional to the charge passing through the water (current) and therefore high current means more gas. To do this the spacing of the electrodes must be as close as possible while still having enough room for the gas to bubble out freely. The metal chosen for the plates was special high grade stainless steel to reduce any chance of corrosion. Such metal is not as conductive as others like copper for instance, so these plates were made from thick sheets of 2mm to counter this potential limiting factor. Very high quality metal was used which meant it was too hard to cut with common DIY tools so these plates were cut using a high pressure water jet. You can purchase them from our shop (HHO electrodes kit).
The plates are layered on top of each other with nylon washers between used as spacing. They are placed in alternating positions so that the plates would be +-+-+-. Stainless steel fixings were then used to fit it all together. It is important that it is put together well otherwise sparks could occur in the gas production area resulting in an explosion.
The gas produced is a highly explosive mixture of Hydrogen and Oxygen and should be treated with extreme caution. A large volume of gas exists inside the container which if ignited would explode and destroy the container. To avoid detonating the gas, the pipe from the container is fed into the base of another container which is half filled with water. This allows the gas to bubble trough the water to then be collected via another pipe which is used as the gas output. Now if any ignition occurs at the output, the flames can't get back past the bubbler device and into the large gas volume in the electrolysis cell. This is an absolutely essential safety device and should not be skipped.
Now it is just deciding what to do with the gas! A good way to see the how explosive the gas mixture is to bubble the gas through another container of water such as a mug and ignite the bubbles as they reach the surface. Each bubble will explode very loudly and probably blow out the lighter. A similar project which uses the explosive properties of the gas is the Hydrogen Cannon experiment. You should be aware that detonating this HHO gas mixture is VERY VERY loud. |
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| Jon Jones | Sunday, 5th October 2008 10:37am - No.3158 |
| Imagine this, using your Pulse width Modulator, connected to a neon sign transformer, which then gets connected into the cell. On the Neon sign transformer Im using the output is 5000volts and 0.8 amps. I think you will be amazed at your results. Although I am using graphite plates as my electrodes, as they are extremely conductive and seem to output almost twice the amount of gas as the stainless steel did for me. And with the current staying under 1 amp the water never heats up. | |
| Santa | Sunday, 19th October 2008 9:04pm - No.3203 |
| You could use an air spaced capacitor for the plates. Not an ideal solution but they do work. | |
| RMCybernetics | Monday, 20th October 2008 8:51am - No.3204 |
| I should imagine they would work. How well depends on the material it is made from. Most metals would react with the Oxygen causing the water to become sludgy quite quickly and the electrodes themselves to erode away. One possible advantage of this is that the Oxygen gets used up and therefore the gas you produce is just Hydrogen. The container full of hydrogen would not explode without any oxygen. | |
| M.Rogers | Tuesday, 21st October 2008 7:50pm - No.3210 |
| Jon Do you have a website or email that you could share for an example circuit? | |
| Santa ( Need new Name) | Wednesday, 22nd October 2008 3:10am - No.3211 |
| I generally like my gas to Explode,but not until i am ready. We are using Carbon rods from D-Cells, in a 15mm PVC pipe. A plastic bag is held on to the pipe with a rubber band and removed when the bag is inflated. The gas can be drawn off into a syringe and injected into 35mm film cans. The plan is to take Photographs as they ignite. I wont be injecting Hydrogen into my Transit, unless the Missus is driving. | |
| Steve USA | Friday, 9th January 2009 4:38pm - No.3476 |
| I have just ordered an electrode kit(2 pair) from your company. I would like to power it from a 12V car battery and a simple PWM controler that I am building per your site. If I parallel the T1 (IRF740) will this work with the amperage involved? If not what would? Thanks | |
| RMCybernetics | Tuesday, 13th January 2009 6:13am - No.3480 |
| Yes you can parallel the MOSFETS. You should use at low frequency though for better efficiency. | |
| willy | Friday, 6th March 2009 5:34am - No.3629 |
| hello Rm & all, i've made my HHO kits using 2 SS304 Pipe. and i connected it with ss plate as for the connector. bcoz before i've used only a copper wire then it became rusted so it can't be used anymore. but now the probs is it doesn't connected again. when i tested with avometer it shows connected but with some resistant.. i'm using AC[airconditioner] ex. water without any catalyst. i wonder why is my SS304 errode/covered with brown stain ? thank's :) | |
| RMCybernetics | Saturday, 7th March 2009 9:34am - No.3638 |
| Any contamination of the water could hasten the breakdown of your electrodes. Even ss will still rust when there is large current. | |
| willy | Sunday, 8th March 2009 9:18am - No.3639 |
| hi rm, whaddya mean by contamination ? is it like some ash in the water ? i'm using AC ex.water so it should be pure bcoz it's from air condensation right ? but i still use strong catalyst[NaOH] to enhance the HHO production. if i don't use any catalyst then there's was no HHO gas produced. thank's :) | |
| willy | Tuesday, 10th March 2009 1:29am - No.3642 |
| dear rm, is it possible to use only pure water without any electrolyte/catalyst as an enhancer to produce a lot of HHO Gas ? i've tried without any catalyst but only a very little of bubble disperse from water itself.. even i've used it with PWM module [Homemade Power Pulse Controller]. i'm using 2 SS304 pipe. can i multiply the voltage then use it with PWM [ combine the PWM with Inverter/Voltage Multiplier in your site ?] i'ven't tried it yet. thank's i want to make HHO gas from only a pure water. :D thank's | |
| RMCybernetics | Tuesday, 10th March 2009 5:50am - No.3645 |
| No that wont be pure water but I guess it would contain less dissolved ions than tap water. Pure water wont work becasue it is a dielectric (insulator). The amount of gas produced is proportional to the flow of current. A voltage multiplier wont work as it decreases the available current. | |
| willy | Thursday, 12th March 2009 5:45am - No.3653 |
| hi rm, is strong catalyst like NaOH hazardous especially for the engine ? all i knew is it still ok as long as it [the water] doesn't sucked by the engine so only the steam/gass itself permitted to sucked up by the engine.. thank's :D | |
| willy | Friday, 13th March 2009 1:53am - No.3658 |
| in my country, there's a great HHO products that use only pure water but it said can be produced a very lot of HHO Gas. i wonder if it's true or just a bullsh** thanks :D | |
| RMCybernetics | Monday, 16th March 2009 12:05am - No.3668 |
| I don't know what effect it will have on your engine. That website suggests sing tap water which is definitely not pure. Tap water will conduct easily. You can't use pure water for electrolysis unless you used some sort of very high voltage system. | |
| jango | Tuesday, 17th March 2009 6:13pm - No.3684 |
| MESSAGE FOR WILLY I am also interested by the production of gas starting from l' water and of current…. There are 2 methods: that of MEYER which uses the resonance of l' water with 43.430 kz! and that of NAUDIN my preference which uses an electric arc under a few kilo volts +20à40. In l' water there is a little sodium bicarbonate….I think that you utlized a PWM .....thanks saying to me on gonin.jean@neuf.fr if your test with bicarbonate gives you good performances | |
| HHO4all | Sunday, 24th May 2009 1:42am - No.3827 |
| isn't it true you can break down water into HHO gas by passing it through an electric field, i don't know how strong an electric field, maybe someone can comment on that. just getting some thoughts out there | |
| dave kear | Thursday, 13th August 2009 9:23pm - No.3998 |
| Are you able to give me an idea of how much gas would be produced in a hydrogen cell using the 16 ss plates that you have available whilst pulling 25 amps? Do you think that the efficiency of a hydrogen cell is judged by the power consumed and the quantity of gas produced? My hydrogen cell produces 0.4 litres of gas/min whilst pulling 26 amps which is dismal, but I wouldn`t want to spend £100 opn a new set of plates just to produce the same amount of gas. I have made the rms power pulse modultor hoping that a pulsed dc current would produce more gas but this didn`t happen although I was able to slow down the gas production using the ppm. thanks | |
| RMCybernetics | Friday, 14th August 2009 11:22am - No.3999 |
| I don't know exactly but I can measure it for you if you provide a few more parameters. The gas production is mostly related to the current flow but there are also other factors such as temperature, ion concentration, pressure etc. You want me to test them with plain tap water? If so, is it at room temperature or something else? | |
| dave kear | Sunday, 16th August 2009 11:18pm - No.4001 |
| thanks for your rapid response. I`ve been using distilled water with sodium hydroxide as a catalist but wouldn`t it be better if you used the parameters of your choice to achieve maximum gas production for minimum power consumption? I noticed that you don`t include any neutral plates in your cell. Is this because you have found that they don`t affect gas production? Are you using the ppm to find resonating frequency for your cell? thanks | |
| RMCybernetics | Wednesday, 19th August 2009 10:38pm - No.4007 |
| I don't think neutral plates help much. I never tried to get the cell to resonate as it was not necessary for the project. | |
| jango | Thursday, 17th September 2009 4:11pm - No.4046 |
| Hello. I built a gas " generator; HH O ". I used the plates of a transformer (4.5*3 cm) pluggin on the poles V+ L. The gaseous emission is very weak. (on your video it is important). Which must be the space between the plates? thank you. | |
| RMCybernetics | Monday, 21st September 2009 10:54pm - No.4048 |
| The plates shown in the video are about 1mm apart. | |
| rodangol | Thursday, 3rd December 2009 2:34pm - No.4125 |
| Which would provide better gas production, AC or DC current? Depending on if you have the available means, gold coated electrodes would provide better conductivity than SS without adding sludge as gold does not oxidize. | |
| RMCybernetics | Friday, 4th December 2009 5:04pm - No.4126 |
| DC current is necessary. | |
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